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"Wheels - In my restoration of a 1964 4/4, I am considering powder coating  the wire wheels.  Would you recommend this or suggest an alternate?

 Thanks,
 Keith McIver
 

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Bill Fink

Keith,

I don't know the cost of powder coating, but to do it properly the wheels would need to be disassembled, reassembled, tuned, etc. It strikes me that new chrome plated wheels would be a better idea,  as you would then have new wheels instead of 36 year old wheels, with  a nice finish.

Bill Fink
Isis Imports Ltd.

Melvyn Rutter

Greetings,
A proper blast and powder coat is fine, although on old wire wheels, they have to be checked for spoke tightness and see if they run true first.
Regards Melvyn Rutter

Greg Solow
Wheels can be safely powder coated. dics wheels cannot. the powder coating is flexible and the wheels can crack and the cracks will not be apparent until it is to late.

Regards, Greg Solow

Rusted Chrome Wire Wheels 
by the GoMoG Webmaster

These are wise warnings..something I have seen over the last 30 years of hearing and helping with 1000s of Morgan Trad problems. Though I adore chrome wire wheels, they have big drawbacks and watchpoints. In no special order:

1. Wire wheels, depending on their strength (dictated in part by the number of spokes) and inherent quality need re-truing every 10-20 thousand miles. Powder coated wheels cannot be retrued as the coating prevents that. In my experience with my own and other wire wheeled car, not being able to true wire wheels will reduce their effective longevity by 80+%.

WATCHPOINT I It is often and wrongly assumed that polished metal is an aesthetic choice only. WRONG! Polished metal resists rusting. It is infinitely more durable than paint or unpoloished metal..which will always fail you, which always fail you, stainless steel or not. Even the later stainless steel used by the Factory after 1995, (bulkhead and engine bay) stains. The Factory would not pay the pittance more to have it polished. I have even seen such Morgan stainless panels rust in extreme climates combined with a lack of care!  All proper wire wheel sellers switched to stainless spokes decades ago. I use MWS ALL-Stainless wire wheels. Everything is SS, both spokes and the rims themselves. I have had them all re-trued 4 times (100$ cdn for all of them) until I began retruing them myself. See the relevant articles in the Wheels Index. I have had them for 23 years and 110,000 kms. 

2. The logical (proper) way is to completely disassemble them, sandblast them, true them, then paint them as Bill Fink advised above. Anything else is an exercise in sad frustration over time. The cost and hassles of this makes it always cheaper and wiser to buy them new. Forever shiny wheels, are possible, the all-ss sort, but their cost is 3-4 times what a chromed set will cost, Figure 1000£ each rim excluding shipping & handling...and more than that difference when compared with coated or painted wheels. In my humble opinion as well, painted  wire wheels are best painted (I find many of these quite lovely) or if you want to stretch  your wallet much more, all-stainless. Painted wires can always be easily re-painted at home and polished stainless is forever. ANYTHING in between these two methods will always disappoint and upkeep is tedious. Outside of re-tuning them every 20k, I have never done anything to my polished stainless wheels aside from regularly use a 1400 psi pressure hose on them, inside and out. 

WATCHPOINT II   Both MWS and Dayton wire wheels, even if they have stainless spokes, will have rusting rims if those rims are not made of all-stainless AND this will happen very quickly if the subject cars are left outside and not regularly driven. Rain water pools at their low point and causes rust within a couple of years. Trust me, I know what I am talking about. :(


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