If you do not have one of the newer post-1997 heated windscreens, your windscreen is quite simple to replace. The glass fellow (best to go to a non-auto glass place) simply needs shatterproof glass of the same or near-same thickness which should be no problem.
The costs are normally very cheap (I paid the equivalent of 50 US for the last one). I change mine every 2-3 years as a regular maintenance thing as all these flat glass screens become lightly pitted over time.
Go to the glass shop and tell them you would like a new windscreen cut from a piece of "school bus" glass. School bus glass (the side windows) is a standard stock item. The trick is you can have two windscreens cut from the one piece of glass. Here is what happens, you are usually given the one windscreen for a said price and they put the other half of the glass back on the shelf for the next guy but you have paid for the whole piece of glass. Knowing this tell them that you want two. This quite often catches them unaware and they will charge you a additional fee to cut the second piece but you still come out ahead with a spare windscreen for the next time.
You can also have a choice of tinted glass or tinted with
a shade at the top. By placement of the pattern for the two cuts you can
end up with a tinted windscreen and the shaded piece works in place of
sun visors with its shaded top band.
|WATCHPOINT: The Morgan windscreens are held by 3 screws on each side. The lengths are different and must get the right length in the right hole or the longer ones will go through the windscreen frame touch and cause the windscreen to crack.|
WINDSCREENS UNHEATED II(FITTING)
by Fred Sisson from the eMOG archives
For some reason the grit in Georgia eats glass surface and so I have replaced a few windscreen glasses too. Even have used tinted glass. It is a cheap, easy job.
I like the silicone replacement method but buy the proper tools to remove glued-in glass from the frame next time. I use a combination of home-bent knife blades and old banjo strings to remove the glass. Even then it is not that easy, BUT... easier than removing some of the original glasses. Be careful about bending the frame when removing the glass I find it easiest to do a simple one-finger cleanup while the silicone is wet.. then I do the final cleanup after it is dry, using razor blades to trim the excess and clean the glass.
MOST IMPORTANT... Just about anyone who has replaced a
few windscreens had broken one at sometime because of the screws
holding the screen to the frame or the screws holding the little angle
brackets (that hold the frame together).. contacting the glass. Sometimes
they crack a few days later...
MAKE SURE the screws are short enough that they don't contact the edge of the glass!
I also like to shape my own glass for the Brooklands Aeroscreens. I have four different shapes sitting on the shelf at the moment.. Since I am not worried about them being watertight... I only use three inch long squirts of silicone to hold the glass ('cuz I know I am going to get bored with them in a year or so...).
WINDSCREENS UNHEATED III
by Phil Macwhirter from the eMOG archives
It might only be a morgan windscreen but it can be pretty difficult to get the screen back into the frame, particularly if your rubber or glass is a bit thicker than it should be. So, what I do with the rubber (which holds the screen into the frame) is throw it away.
The best bet there is to use NEUTRAL cure silicone. Don't use acetic cure as it will eat the lamination in the glass, assuming it is laminated & not toughened. (As a building contractor I see the results of the wrong silicone all the time, it eats the back off mirrors & taints special metallic coatings as well ). The use of silicone ensures that there is little pressure or stress on the glass/frame assembly.
After removing screen frame from car, pull it all apart, very easy, connections at points where bottom rail joins side / top. & clean all components. Then 50% fill the rebate of the metal frame with silicone.
Fit the glass, & assemble, putting the screws back in to the frame. Then start to wipe off the excess silicone which will ooze out, using turpentine as a solvent. A real messy job, use doctors latex gloves & have plenty of newspaper & rags on hand. Eventually you will get the whole lot clean and if required can use a razor blade when silicone is dry for final trim up.
BTW, I've heard of many broken windscreens trying to use the rubber sections. The silicone method uses no force or strain on anything ( except you as you get the silicone off everything.) I've done a few screens like this & would not do it any other way.
If you need some more info on this, drop me a line in
Melbourne, Australia at firstname.lastname@example.org
by Lorne Goldman at the eMOG PUB
There are two types of Morgan windscreen rubber and they go different ways. The earlier rubber is made to fold back under and, indeed, was made to accommodate folding windscreens. It is flat and longer. The later rubber has been used from late 1969 on all cars (but the 4/4s) and from 1977 with the 4/4s as well, until today. ALL Plus 8s, saving the proto-type, had the newer rubber. It is the shorter and mildly arched and to turn it under is not advisable. If you attempt it, it will take much effort to fold the rubber under and require more than one person (3?) to refit the screen and force it into position.
Of course, if folding windscreens are retro-fitted, the cars switch to the earlier version.
Both types of rubber are available, you must ask for the
right one, innie or outie. (smile)
January, 2011 (updated November 2012)
In 1997, Morgan decided to recess the dash to allow for more tummy room for the newer-type owners. This eliminated the space for the air vents that were used to demist the windscreen. They were replaced by made-for-Morgan heated windscreens. Though these do quick and often superior job in demisting the windscreen, they can only be sourced from two places, both in the UK. The MORGAN MOTOR COMPANY and SIMMONDS From the MORGAN MOTOR COMPANY, the price will be approximately 1000£ installed..depending on what country you live and they will provide only a frame and windscreen package. (There is a small risk in fitting this glass to its frame and at the cost, a package eliminates this risk). SIMMONDS will ship glass and frame or glass only at your option. The glass/frame cost will vary with the model of frame you have. (500-700£) and they charge 265£ for the heated glass alone.
WATCHPOINT: CRACKING WINDSCREENS
There has been a rash of unexplained cracking windscreens since late 2009. Owners would open their garages in the morning to find their windscreens cracked! Though some of these claims were originally settled by the company under warranty when they first began, the Factory very quickly transferred these decisions to another and dealers were subsequently instructed to refuse the owner claims and refer them to their car insurer. But irregardless of who pays, a backlog for heated windscreens quickly grew to three months and more. Happily, the cause has recently been determined and a cure has been found (from the assurances of the MMC to its dealers).
The 4/4 Sport (and some other current Morgans) use different windscreen pillars from other classics as it has the older 9 stud hood. The pillars curve slightly to accommodate the width and type of screen. Sadly, the newer version of this part for these cars was made with the curvature section too thin (unlike the older versions) allowing unfortunate flexing and acting as pressure springs on the screen when they are installed. It was this that is reported to inevitably cause the cracking. (However, considering the many warranty refusals, it is not expected that this will be officially acknowledged at this point. Those who have pursured this issue vigorously, even to the point of the Courts, have received satisfaction and restitution from the MMC but most have followed MMC instructions and claimed payment for this fault from their insurers as if it were an "accident", thereby presumably increasing Morgan owner premiums while affording the MMC a windfall profit on the replacements.)
Replacement pillars, stronger and thicker at the curve,
have now been made and this has (hopefully) resolved the problem (though
the aesthetics have not improved). Replacement screens should now delivered
with these new pillars.
(Make sure they are included with your replacement
when your screen cracks or it will happen again! Those who have already
had to replace their screen (s) and did not have the pillars changed be
There are three types of car warranties.
A. MANUFACTURER'S WARRANTY
B. DEALER'S WARRANTY
C. THIRD PARTY WARRANTY
WIPER BLADE REPLACEMENT
For those of us with a difficult access to a Morgan Agent, you will find the the early Volkswagon Beetle wiper blades work fine with a Morgan. By the way, for the purists, there are two sizes of Morgan wiper blades (regular and four-seater windscreen which is a tiny bit longer.
You can also simply replace the rubber only. Use silicone to glue-in new rubber for the wiper blades. Two dollars gets you new refills for modern wipers- long enough to do three-four Mog blades. The new blades let the rubber do the flopping rather than the whole blade.. and they work a LOT better than original. (keep the new glass clean..).